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PostSubject: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 2:47 pm

what if there was a mod command for rants to suicide and explode? it would help to deal with camping humans behind lots of rets and teslas. the player Somnus thought of this idea on niveus, because the humans were camping in four doors and we were losing evos from kamikazeing. i thought of adding like a 2-3 evo cost, and perhaps the command wouldnt be available until after 60:00 minutes, to prevent abuse of it early on (rantwhores could easily utilize this to tear apart a human base before SD and unbalance the game). idk if this is possible, but i thought it was a pretty good idea.


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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 2:52 pm

interesting idea, wouldn't it be easier though to just add like an ESD? I mean if it would already be after 60:00 it would be like just changing the sudden death mode.

This would be fun to use though lol
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 3:50 pm

Ya I like the idea but maybe at 30:00 instead of 60:00. if it was at 60:00 then that would mean we just hit the time limit.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 4:09 pm

Don't they have that on the X server?

Don't remember how it works exactly, but it goes like this.

You have to be rant. You get 9 evos, and buy a "nuke".

You rush into human base, use the nuke, and it (being the x server) kills basically everything in a 10 foot range.

Don't remember how it works exactly, because I haven't played on that server in quite a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 5:50 pm

Basically you got it, but in this case, i wouldnt help because it would be hard to get the 9 evos, maybe 3 evos?
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 6:03 pm

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Basically you got it, but in this case, i wouldnt help because it would be hard to get the 9 evos, maybe 3 evos?
hard to get 9 evos? unlimited server = unlimited evos = mass amounts of tyrant nukes if someone whored evos = lots of pissed off players
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 10:31 pm

not too favorable of this, more dretch bomb kinda guy myself but as lad said, there would be a ton, ton, ton of nukes going off. Pretty much there would be only one or a few nukes allowed per match to make it fairish. Also, remember we need balance.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 11:18 pm

Well thats why i said this should only be after 60:00, to prevent abuse of it early on. It really is just a deterrent to camping humans late in the game, which is why doub's idea of limiting its uses is very practical. The aliens werent meant to have a bomb weapon, but then again humans werent meant to build so much. Using dretches would be too easy on the evos, and they could be easily killed before reaching the target. I figured rants can tank their way into the human base and use the cmd (ideally already set to a bind) which would make the rant explode (maybe a little larger than a nade) and subtract the evos. also, i think the 9-evo cost idea could work, again, to prevent rantwhores from abusing this power (of course limiting the uses would be even better).
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeThu Aug 12, 2010 4:51 am

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Well thats why i said this should only be after 60:00, to prevent abuse of it early on. It really is just a deterrent to camping humans late in the game, which is why doub's idea of limiting its uses is very practical. The aliens werent meant to have a bomb weapon, but then again humans werent meant to build so much. Using dretches would be too easy on the evos, and they could be easily killed before reaching the target. I figured rants can tank their way into the human base and use the cmd (ideally already set to a bind) which would make the rant explode (maybe a little larger than a nade) and subtract the evos. also, i think the 9-evo cost idea could work, again, to prevent rantwhores from abusing this power (of course limiting the uses would be even better).
It could have(if doub cna do it) much larger effect on hummie building then the hummies themselfs.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeThu Aug 12, 2010 9:33 am

seb why are you so hard set on 60:00 unless we turn off the tl the game ends at 60:00 and if you turn the tl off permanently well I'm not in favor of that. Really a game shouldn't be longer then 45:00 at most really if you hit 60:00 then the game was just a standoff anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeThu Aug 12, 2010 2:43 pm

Oh well i was thinking this could be a last resort, it seems like it would be too powerful to introduce early on, its not like the aliens are uncapable of taking down a heavily defended human base, i figured this would just augment them a little, not become a regular part of the game. maybe the last 10 minutes at 50:00?
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeThu Aug 12, 2010 4:12 pm

I would say it should be more like using a dretch at the cost it would be to a nade, my guess would be like two evos and be triggered with something like /nuke and have the same damage and outcome as a nade therefore still keeping the gameplay pretty equal. The more advantagous thing for aliens is that they could have the nuke capability and use it wherever and if they die they don't lose the chance with evos whereas humans do if they want to use one they must buy one and risk having it.

If an alien nade was added to the game it would be interesting to see how it would be used in like the hallway with humans around lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeSat Aug 14, 2010 10:35 pm

30 minutes would be good,
um limiting shit is gay ( or else can we limit luci cannons Razz Razz )

what u need is a 5 min ( 2 min? ) timer between rantnukes,

also, talk to white maybe it would be really awesome, u get a rant model that has a little pack on with dynamite XD
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeSun Aug 15, 2010 9:39 pm

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:
u get a rant model that has a little pack on with dynamite XD

Awesome, simply awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 11:06 am

Maybe for like 2 evos rants could buy 1 uber spit like they have on Korx for adv. tyrants but it wouldn't recharge, or we could ad adv tyrants to unlim but just not make them as powerful as on Korx.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 11:12 am

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Maybe for like 2 evos rants could buy 1 uber spit like they have on Korx for adv. tyrants but it wouldn't recharge, or we could ad adv tyrants to unlim but just not make them as powerful as on Korx.
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Also, remember we need balance.
I think we lose balance with an even more powerful tyrant level. All I can see is everyone going either tyrant or adv tyrant as soon as they get the evos.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 2:05 pm

I can see your point lad, and that's why we wanted to make sure that the rant thing only starts at like the 30 or 45 minute line

but {ACR} is cool the rant idea!! I HAS A COOLER ONE!!!

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we make a new class of alien that flies!! like a raptor or something, and it could like drop stuff on people, or even shoot stuff at people,
or if those don't work, it could just plain explode into people!

if this idea is too rabbit then im outta ideas

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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 3:07 pm

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I can see your point lad, and that's why we wanted to make sure that the rant thing only starts at like the 30 or 45 minute line

but {ACR} is cool the rant idea!! I HAS A COOLER ONE!!!

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we make a new class of alien that flies!! like a raptor or something, and it could like drop stuff on people, or even shoot stuff at people,
or if those don't work, it could just plain explode into people!

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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 3:30 pm

Just do a google image search on advanced dretch.
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PostSubject: Re: Rant Bombs   Rant Bombs Icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 3:54 pm

thats not as fun thou...
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