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PostSubject: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeMon Nov 10, 2008 10:08 pm

SORRY FOR TYPOS IN ADVANCE

Lets see here where to start....

1. A&V Arguements

2. Good members quiting.

3. Abuse

Lets start at 1...Ok lets get one tihng down i dont like A&V,but thats mainly because i dont liek some people in it. I dont understand what I did to them. I let huck and dreb (leader and co of A&V into the clan, gave them the same rules as everyone else, let them use my server, like everyone else, and their mad? WTF i didnt do anything and frankly i still dont. I dont deserve half teh shit they give me. Its rediulous how they are treating em and everyone else. Drebin is always like u shouldnt let people absue, hey guess what? he got complaint after complaint when he abused. Hypocrite?


2. Good members quiting? Memory.... He was an awesome member, never heard him say a bad word about anyone.....didn't deserve the shit he got.

Most importantly 3. ABUSE. First dont blame me for absue im not the one doing it, if you guys have an idea to stop it be my guest..but it will always happen.....Also it might help if you guys gave me names of the abusers and EXAMPLES of what they do. A video/screenshot would be nice too. I understand everyones frusteration about abuse, but if you guys want to complain about it..be my guets but unless i have PROOF it wont do anything.



On another note the ACR Holdiday events are coming up...Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeMon Nov 10, 2008 10:23 pm

1. Huck is stubborn. Instead of ignoring the people who constantly say she uses an aimbot, she argues with them like a 10 YO girl. As for Drebin, there's nothing we can do for him. He won't change either because he's unwilling to grow up some balls. I just say PERMA-BAN those two. They were given many opportunities to change their childish attitudes but they kept on. We gotta take drastic measures this time.

2. It's because of the mass abusing. But, as I told Memory in some other thread, once I'm able to play Trem again I'll work for recovering the nice server state we once had.

3. Bug, we don't know WHEN someone's going to abuse. We don't record our games all the time either. It's just not very possible to give you proofs. But hey, many people telling you the same has to tell you something, doesn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 11, 2008 2:33 pm

I will not beg or plead anymore. I am one to forgive, but I am also one who will not waste my time for a lost cause. I have talked with Nightfire and, therefore, am considering rejoining this community if certain things are promised to be fixed.

With great power comes great responsibility. Admin is not quite great of a power compared to some other things, but the principle still applies. Your admins have the responsibility of maintaining the quality of the server, to create a fun experience for the player. This does not mean making "museums" and "exhibits" and killing, muting, kicking or banning anyone who tries to kill the participants in such matters, just so a few players can roleplay. It is not fun to stand around as a rant with a naked human holding a blaster right in front of you and threatening to kick or ban you if you kill them. I would say this is the biggest problem. Abusive admins are neither fun nor responsible, and therefore should not have administrative powers.

I ask this of you, Bughuman: Remove the problems of abusive admins. If there is a problem with your server, it is your responsibility to fix it. Kick, ban, remove admin lvl, it doesn't matter. These admins that abuse do not deserve their power, PERIOD. You want a list of names. Off the top of my head I can name some abusive admins. Snugg, also known as Waffles. This player has repeatedly abused his or her admin powers by changing the friendly fire and structure damage variables, using the !passvote or !cancelvote commands in a vote that was favorable to them, and muting, kicking, or banning me and others (the only other I can remember is a player named Koolaid man, whom I no longer see anymore for obvious reasons ) for attempting to play the game. This player has treated these offenses as jokes, often ignoring my requests to stop and follow the rules (I was even "asked" to be the exhibit prior to my being kicked from the server). I believe that litox once said that you will not reprimand Snugg because of his seniority; might I say that with age comes senility, the older you get the dumber you get, and the more you abuse the more confident you are in getting away with it. I read the above comments and the comments in my own thread about my resignation. I am glad to see that this matter was not ignored. Bug, you said I was a good member. Now ask yourself, is Snugg a good member? Is he a good admin? I hope that your conclusion is that he is not mature enough for his powers, and must have them removed if the server quality is to be maintained. Litox said these things only happen when you and him are away. What good is an admin who will not do his job unless being watched?

Another name to know is, of course, Drebin. I guess I should've seen his abusive nature when I used to ask him to !putteam me onto the team I desired (my fault, no longer happens). I don't know what happened to Drebin. One day we seemed on good terms, then I was absent for about a month or two, then suddenly he joins under an alias and starts calling me all sorts of nice little names that begin with everyone's favorite f-word. Drebin also likes to abuse, but his is mostly verbal, which I do not mind. However, he likes to resort to the coward method, and cocksuck other admins into doing what he wants. Specifically by bitching and moaning, and votecalling multiple times. Fact of the matter: the kid's weird and does not deserve admin powers (by the way, he indeed does have admin powers thanks to Snugg, who setleveled him to 10 during my last encounter). An admin should respect the rules and should not plead or beg for his way.

I know from other players that Huckleberry is an asshole, but seeing as how I have not had many experiences with Huckleberry, I cannot submit a complaint against her, other than that she is verbally abusive.

The last name I would like to bring up is BoG ACR Killa. Killa did not seem to be a bad person, for he never joined in on the whole lets-not-play-trem-lets-play-museum thing. However, at the end of that game he did !passvote a vote to mute me, which was previously failing to pass. This should be a major offense, because he is breaking the rules AND going against the majority vote. Now Killa seems to be a smart guy, so I believe that if his powers are removed that he will learn to not use them so carelessly.

Bug, I am aware that my testimony is the only proof I have against these abusers, and that it comes from very personalized experiences. But what happens once can happen again. All of the above is only a request, not a demand. If you do actually see me as such a good member, then you will take what I have said into account to improve the server. Once I start seeing changes I will consider returning to this community. I could just ignore these abusers and only play when they aren't around, but I enjoy this server enough to consider its future with such abusers in power.
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 11, 2008 6:22 pm

Memory what is your MSN/xfire/aim ?
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 11, 2008 7:28 pm

I do not use AIM often at all. However, it is "miru36legend"
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 11, 2008 7:37 pm

Aww use MSN! We (Bug, Linux and me) use it! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 11, 2008 9:07 pm

the reason im asking is because it would be easier to discuss this with u
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeWed Nov 12, 2008 6:32 pm

wow acr dont like a&v...
u guys are just jalous of a&v
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeWed Nov 12, 2008 7:21 pm

^ You know I'm part of A&V, don't you?
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeWed Nov 12, 2008 7:27 pm

nice..
you know am part of A&V too do you??
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeWed Nov 12, 2008 7:28 pm

No.

Now thanks to you I'm officially leaving A&V.
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeWed Nov 12, 2008 7:33 pm

ok...
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PostSubject: Re: What to do?   What to do? Icon_minitimeWed Nov 12, 2008 7:33 pm

do you quit ACR too???am part of ACR Very Happy
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