want to learn programming?

Subject: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:09 pm

O.K. so here is the thing. I've decided to try computer programming. But there are two and maybe more problems. One I don't know anything about programming. I know a little about computers though. Also I don't know anything programming language. So if a computer programmer could give me some suggestions and tips that would greatly appreciated. So linux/helix can you help please?

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:22 pm

Google it. Smile

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:43 pm

do any of you know processing, and if you happen to, how the {ACR} is cool do i make an array.

i had the file, but it magically erased itself after i showed it to someone yesterday.

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:49 pm

BugHuman wrote:: Google it.

I have a cp for a reason you know > Sad

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:28 pm

I know the following:
HTML (self tought, probably gaping holes in my knowledge)
Visual Basic (great)
C++ (basics)
Java (rather well)

general programming theory/Information Technology Fundamentals

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:11 pm

Goober wrote:

BugHuman wrote:: Google it.

I have a cp for a reason you know > Sad

lol bug just lacks the comedic timing to use it properly Razz

(2600 points ftw!)

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:47 pm

hmmm, in regards to starting programming....

it depends on what you want to get out of it,
but for general purpose \ pretty much
all system support i suggest
C or a derivation thereof

this is a nice tutorial that can get you
some basic programming skills if you
can understand it:
http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/bwk-tutor.html

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:13 pm

McEpic wrote:: O.K. so here is the thing. I've decided to try computer programming. But there are two and maybe more problems. One I don't know anything about programming. I know a little about computers though. Also I don't know anything programming language. So if a computer programmer could give me some suggestions and tips that would greatly appreciated. So linux/helix can you help please?

There are an infinite number of ways of learning programming, from completely self-taught to completely from a textbook. While self-teaching is great for when you already know a bit of everything, it is not the case for a beginner. Lots of so-called tutorials are made by people who don't really understand what they're teaching properly (which is quite unfortunate). If you think ``teach yourself programming in 2 weeks'' tutorials are a good idea, I would ask you to reconsider.

If you want C and nothing else, grab a C compiler and read K&R (and complete the exercises). Note that while this is a great book and C is a great language, this book will only teach you C. You might have a harder time understanding functional programming later on when you need it, which leads me to the other option...

If you want to reach total enlightenment (so that no matter what life throws at you, you'll know how to approach it the right way), read the wizard book (and complete the exercises, whose solutions can be found here). You will also need a MIT Scheme interpreter. This book does not teach you just one single language, it teaches you concepts that apply to all programming languages. This book is effectively the fastest possible way you can become a programming expert. The language it uses to teach you is called Scheme. It was chosen for its incredible expressiveness and for its adaptivity to many programming paradigms at the same time. You will probably not use it much after completing the book (or you might, who knows). You will probably move on to another less-complete language such as C or Python. Note that you will need a bit of advanced math once in a while in this book, which should not be a problem. Programming skill is strongly correlated with math skill, so it's natural that when you are getting good at one you are getting good at the other as well (it makes your mind work better and faster, in a sense).

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:18 pm

ty Linux imma do the latter of the 3. +1 rep for you again ty

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:04 am

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.........

also lol @ some of the random links in that...

so linux, how much math? obviously some things
require rly advanced \ specific algorithms ect,
but will calculus spin it?

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:10 am

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOKWIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK

You don't believe me? http://wizardbook.org/

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: also lol @ some of the random links in that...

None of the links are random (okay, except the Google and Wikipedia ones).

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: so linux, how much math? obviously some things
require rly advanced \ specific algorithms ect,
but will calculus spin it?

Meh, I guess first-year calculus should do it. Knowing how to Google whatever you're not sure about certainly helps. Also, will you please stop manually line-wrapping your posts? The browser is intelligent enough to do it on its own.

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:29 am

linux26 wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOKWIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK WIZZARD BOOK

You don't believe me? http://wizardbook.org/

actually that was more excited raving than disbelief...

linux26 wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: also lol @ some of the random links in that...

None of the links are random (okay, except the Google and Wikipedia ones).

linux26 wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: so linux, how much math? obviously some things
require rly advanced \ specific algorithms ect,
but will calculus spin it?

Meh, I guess first-year calculus should do it. Knowing how to Google whatever you're not sure about certainly helps. Also, will you please stop manually line-wrapping your posts? The browser is intelligent enough to do it on its own.

kewl, im OK for calc ( just don't give me insane integrals or serieses, oh and i hate trig identities )

about line wrapping....
well c teh box u wright in for the forums is somewhat smaller than
the box your text is posted in, and i have ocd for knowing what's
going to show up Very Happy

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:10 am

/me considers if he wants the enlightenment....

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:47 pm

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: i have ocd

BLAME MINECRAFT!

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:42 pm

Iridescent Blade wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: i have ocd

BLAME MINECRAFT!

nah... i've always had ocd!
if you don't believe me watch where the
upgrades selector is on trem when i play...

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:57 am

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Iridescent Blade wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: i have ocd

BLAME MINECRAFT!

nah... i've always had ocd!
if you don't believe me watch where the
upgrades selector is on trem when i play...

I thought something was strange when I specced you...

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:07 pm

-theMbaude wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Iridescent Blade wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:: i have ocd

BLAME MINECRAFT!

nah... i've always had ocd!
if you don't believe me watch where the
upgrades selector is on trem when i play...

I thought something was strange when I specced you...

The upgrades selector?

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:05 pm

Goober wrote:: The upgrades selector?

yup

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:25 pm

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Goober wrote:: The upgrades selector?

yup

I meant for you to explain what an upgrade selector was.

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:40 pm

is that the armory/evolve interface?

Subject: Re: want to learn programming? Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:00 am

how u select medkit \ nades ect
mousewheel menu

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