1) Weapon Spam / 2) Spawn Camping

Maybe this should be two separate topics, i dont know.. When replying please put 1) or 2) infrtont of your reply so its easier to work out which side of the topic your replying about.

1) This is something which can be very annoying during certain maps with long small halls, or any map really. Would like to know other peoples opinions on this subject!

I believe the worst weapon is the lucifer, many people spam it straight forward, others fire about 5 shots and curve them around corner whilst running with them, both are incredibly lame really, gets to the point when aliens cant possible attack due to the massive amount of luci shots being fired down halls.

I saw somebody say any more than 3 luci shots in the air from 1 person is counted as spamming and possibly could be warned for it, Is this true?

2) Spawn camping seems to be a massive issue.. just like building around a spawn, i often see many people camping an egg/node just spam killing the person who spawns. You could argue its the players fault for building a spawn with nothing to protect it, but surely its almost as bad as building around a spawn?

It seems like a cheap way of getting easy kills with no intention of killing the egg/node, when the entire game is based upon earning your evos/credits (and of course building a decent base) it seems kinda pathetic that people feel the need to camp spawns...

Again would like opinions on this subject too!

Alexis wrote:

Maybe this should be two separate topics, i dont know.. When replying please put 1) or 2) infrtont of your reply so its easier to work out which side of the topic your replying about.

1) This is something which can be very annoying during certain maps with long small halls, or any map really. Would like to know other peoples opinions on this subject!

I believe the worst weapon is the lucifer, many people spam it straight forward, others fire about 5 shots and curve them around corner whilst running with them, both are incredibly lame really, gets to the point when aliens cant possible attack due to the massive amount of luci shots being fired down halls.

I saw somebody say any more than 3 luci shots in the air from 1 person is counted as spamming and possibly could be warned for it, Is this true?

2) Spawn camping seems to be a massive issue.. just like building around a spawn, i often see many people camping an egg/node just spam killing the person who spawns. You could argue its the players fault for building a spawn with nothing to protect it, but surely its almost as bad as building around a spawn?

It seems like a cheap way of getting easy kills with no intention of killing the egg/node, when the entire game is based upon earning your evos/credits (and of course building a decent base) it seems kinda pathetic that people feel the need to camp spawns...

Again would like opinions on this subject too!

1) Luci spamming is already against the rules.

2) As I said before, if it's your only spawn, you're screwed anyway. If it's not, then spawn as a builder and decon it quickly. If the humans built around it, then someone's getting his ass warned/kicked (because it's against the rules).

1) Luci spams are constantly happening, by members and non members.. if its against the rules why dont they stop?

2) Point is there is not any time to decon it, your dead within half a second of spawning..

Alexis wrote:

1) Luci spams are constantly happening, by members and non members.. if its against the rules why dont they stop?

2) Point is there is not any time to decon it, your dead within half a second of spawning..

1) using a luci cannon is not automatically spam -- sometimes, what seems to be lucispam might actually just be curved shots directed at out-of-view alien structures

2) half a second is more than enough to look down and press E; moreover, since you're not allowed to build around it, whoever is spawnkilling can be rushed by the opposing team, thereby freeing the spawn for long enough to decon it

linux26 wrote:

Alexis wrote:

Maybe this should be two separate topics, i dont know.. When replying please put 1) or 2) infrtont of your reply so its easier to work out which side of the topic your replying about.

1) This is something which can be very annoying during certain maps with long small halls, or any map really. Would like to know other peoples opinions on this subject!

I believe the worst weapon is the lucifer, many people spam it straight forward, others fire about 5 shots and curve them around corner whilst running with them, both are incredibly lame really, gets to the point when aliens cant possible attack due to the massive amount of luci shots being fired down halls.

I saw somebody say any more than 3 luci shots in the air from 1 person is counted as spamming and possibly could be warned for it, Is this true?

2) Spawn camping seems to be a massive issue.. just like building around a spawn, i often see many people camping an egg/node just spam killing the person who spawns. You could argue its the players fault for building a spawn with nothing to protect it, but surely its almost as bad as building around a spawn?

It seems like a cheap way of getting easy kills with no intention of killing the egg/node, when the entire game is based upon earning your evos/credits (and of course building a decent base) it seems kinda pathetic that people feel the need to camp spawns...

Again would like opinions on this subject too!

1) Luci spamming is already against the rules.

2) As I said before, if it's your only spawn, you're screwed anyway. If it's not, then spawn as a builder and decon it quickly. If the humans built around it, then someone's getting his ass warned/kicked (because it's against the rules).

1) Is it in the !info rules? Because that's the only thing I enforce. Players cannot be held responsible for rules that are not published.

I will start to more strictly enforce spamming, mmkay? Cant really do much about spawn camping cuz its partially you (or your builders) fault.

Goober wrote:

linux26 wrote:

Alexis wrote:

Maybe this should be two separate topics, i dont know.. When replying please put 1) or 2) infrtont of your reply so its easier to work out which side of the topic your replying about.

1) This is something which can be very annoying during certain maps with long small halls, or any map really. Would like to know other peoples opinions on this subject!

I believe the worst weapon is the lucifer, many people spam it straight forward, others fire about 5 shots and curve them around corner whilst running with them, both are incredibly lame really, gets to the point when aliens cant possible attack due to the massive amount of luci shots being fired down halls.

I saw somebody say any more than 3 luci shots in the air from 1 person is counted as spamming and possibly could be warned for it, Is this true?

2) Spawn camping seems to be a massive issue.. just like building around a spawn, i often see many people camping an egg/node just spam killing the person who spawns. You could argue its the players fault for building a spawn with nothing to protect it, but surely its almost as bad as building around a spawn?

It seems like a cheap way of getting easy kills with no intention of killing the egg/node, when the entire game is based upon earning your evos/credits (and of course building a decent base) it seems kinda pathetic that people feel the need to camp spawns...

Again would like opinions on this subject too!

1) Luci spamming is already against the rules.

2) As I said before, if it's your only spawn, you're screwed anyway. If it's not, then spawn as a builder and decon it quickly. If the humans built around it, then someone's getting his ass warned/kicked (because it's against the rules).

1) Is it in the !info rules? Because that's the only thing I enforce. Players cannot be held responsible for rules that are not published.

It's in Bug's ACR Unlimited rules sticky.

linux26 wrote:

It's in Bug's ACR Unlimited rules sticky.

yea, published on interwebz, don' get betta dan dat

Some trouble is trying to have spam considered in how many shots or how uncontrolled it's being used. And if so, what do you do? warn em? that wont stop them likely. Kicking them seems to be too harsh. Too bad we dont have a denyweapon. If an admin is on and someone built around a spawn that builder can be kicked ya and if someones just getting free kills from a node or egg left alone that enemy can be !killed to get em off.

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

On an off-related topic, would it be possible to have an !L2 and !L1 command to give people Level 2 and Level 1? This would help from bugging the 999s for Level 2 and if the !cp commands are level 2 and abused, we can set the person at Level 1 because !mute does not work for this.

Goober wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

On an off-related topic, would it be possible to have an !L2 and !L1 command to give people Level 2 and Level 1? This would help from bugging the 999s for Level 2 and if the !cp commands are level 2 and abused, we can set the person at Level 1 because !mute does not work for this.

actually i don't know why noone's thought of tha tsooner, its not exactly hard...

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Goober wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

On an off-related topic, would it be possible to have an !L2 and !L1 command to give people Level 2 and Level 1? This would help from bugging the 999s for Level 2 and if the !cp commands are level 2 and abused, we can set the person at Level 1 because !mute does not work for this.

actually i don't know why noone's thought of tha tsooner, its not exactly hard...

*wink wink bug*

Mbaud it's not like you even helped with coming up with the idea so leave bug out of it.

Mbaude, go have butt secks with your brother with the same name as you.

peebrain wrote:

Mbaude, go have butt secks with your brother with the same name as you.

Can you make it any more obvious >.>

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Goober wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

On an off-related topic, would it be possible to have an !L2 and !L1 command to give people Level 2 and Level 1? This would help from bugging the 999s for Level 2 and if the !cp commands are level 2 and abused, we can set the person at Level 1 because !mute does not work for this.

actually i don't know why noone's thought of tha tsooner, its not exactly hard...

I have been askin but for it for like months

{ACR}Chris wrote:

I have been askin but for it for like months

FIX THAT SENTENCE

-theMbaude wrote:

{ACR}Chris wrote:

I have been askin but for it for like months

FIX THAT SENTENCE

i'd have 2 agree, & i have not heard anyone besides goob asking

Alexis wrote:

1) Luci spams are constantly happening, by members and non members.. if its against the rules why dont they stop?

as linux said, the difficulty on an admin's part is determining what is lucispam and what is fair use. in the Farming Era (circa early-mid 2010) it wouldnt have been uncommon to see a minimum of 7 luciballs flying down the humans main entrance on ATCS. nowadays you dont see that as much. however, i have seen a few players firing walls of luciballs and call it "suppressive fire". my problem with that is that spam does effectively the same thing. i dont know what to do in those situations, but i tell them not to spam anyways.

and i havent seen much spawn camping, but you are on.... a shitload, so i'll take your word for it

lGoober wrote:

1) Is it in the !info rules? Because that's the only thing I enforce. Players cannot be held responsible for rules that are not published.

sure they can. fuck specing and his love for lucispamming and devolve/revolve just because they arent in the !info rules yet.

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

DO IT. DO IT NAOUGHW!

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Goober wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

On an off-related topic, would it be possible to have an !L2 and !L1 command to give people Level 2 and Level 1? This would help from bugging the 999s for Level 2 and if the !cp commands are level 2 and abused, we can set the person at Level 1 because !mute does not work for this.

actually i don't know why noone's thought of tha tsooner, its not exactly hard...

goober did think of it sooner, in a topic from (im guessing) a month ago.

seb0910 wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

Goober wrote:

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

:Lad wrote:

Too bad we dont have a denyweapon.

that can be arranged...

On an off-related topic, would it be possible to have an !L2 and !L1 command to give people Level 2 and Level 1? This would help from bugging the 999s for Level 2 and if the !cp commands are level 2 and abused, we can set the person at Level 1 because !mute does not work for this.

actually i don't know why noone's thought of tha tsooner, its not exactly hard...

goober did think of it sooner, in a topic from (im guessing) a month ago.

<3

qvm update day sooon!!!

progress so far:

• devolve command fixed, default now changed to devolve timer
  
• bank system finished ( bug appeased )
  

currently getting the following cmd off p-g
and adding them ( unless there's objections ) :

• !denyweapon
  
• !allowweapon
  
• !drop
  
• !forcespec
  
• !unforcespec

then i shall be fixing \kill so it is instant again,
and modding jetpack fuel so you start with it full


any questions?

vyrus@ubuntu wrote:

qvm update day sooon!!!

progress so far:

• devolve command fixed, default now changed to devolve timer
  
• bank system finished ( bug appeased )
  

currently getting the following cmd off p-g
and adding them ( unless there's objections ) :

• !denyweapon
  
• !allowweapon
  
• !drop
  
• !forcespec
  
• !unforcespec

then i shall be fixing \kill so it is instant again,
and modding jetpack fuel so you start with it full


any questions?

What does !drop do? Also, anything about the !L2 and !L1 commands? I just want either an !L2 or an actual working !adminlog to deal with !cp spam.

Modify luci a bit to give it a kinda"recharge" to prevent spam?

And maybe a spawn auto self-destruct if enemy building is spawned right next to it and the enemy building has been alive for x seconds, or just give players a command?

right, ill work on that 2 goob,

@ doub, good ideas, perhaps do those for next update =D

progress:

admin cmds very tricky, they're spread out over some
different files, drop is workinig, the other 4 are
working, but not actually stopping you from having a
weapon or joining teams, m' workin' on it