Kicking Pee from ACR.

OK, I've had enough of this guy. I seriously want to kick him. Here are my reasons:

- Kilo, Killa, ReesesCupGirl and me were told by he himself he just joined ACR for admin and then leaving.
- His attitude annoys the hell out of us.
- Much more, I'm too lazy to write 'em all.

Vote now.

nnuuuu!

i didnt join acr for admin, my exact words were "being an admin makes me feel happy"

and anyway if you guys dont all vote me out of ACR im leaving anyway

i hope u leave pee ur annoying and mostly stupid there is like no reason to let u be in acr than ur only good player

STOP. FUCKING. LYING.

4 people saw you writing that.

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i didnt lie those were my exact words

ftw wuts the heck is so hard just kick that tard out -.-

pee these are the only 2 people in acr who really dont like u dont let them put u down.

litox atleast 4 people in this clan type like retards, which can annoy the hell out of me (SERIOUSLY, i can understand misspelling words for convenience, but using HORRIBLE GRAMMAR for NO F***ING REASON?!?!?! WTF!), but thats just how some internet types are. i wish there was some way to fix that, but i cant. from what i can make out from the numerous threads in which you and peebrain have posted, you dislike eachother for some reason that happened in a tremulous game. i suggest ignoring him, since nothing can be done about his clan status if you and skythe are the only ones opposing him for personality reasons. =\

BugHuman wrote:

pee these are the only 2 people in acr who really dont like u dont let them put u down.

Actually, Bug, Kilo, Killa and Pie also dislike Pee very much. I'm not sure 'bout Linux, but at least 4 people think he's not ACR material. Get your facts right before saying anything next time, OK? Thanks.

seb0910 wrote:

litox atleast 4 people in this clan type like retards,
which can annoy the hell out of me (SERIOUSLY, i can understand
misspelling words for convenience, but using HORRIBLE GRAMMAR for NO
F***ING REASON?!?!?! WTF!), but thats just how some internet types are.
i wish there was some way to fix that, but i cant. from what i can make
out from the numerous threads in which you and peebrain have posted,
you dislike eachother for some reason that happened in a tremulous
game. i suggest ignoring him, since nothing can be done about his clan
status if you and skythe are the only ones opposing him for personality
reasons. =\

The grammar issues is nothing compared to the main reason I posted (joining only for admin and the sake of being "powerful" as he's said numerous times). So, get a better example if you're trying to compare.

Then, the only problem I have with him is his attitude. He's even more childish than Wario and that's something that not only annoys me but everyone else, unlike the grammar thing. Take Drebin's and Huck's examples as references.

So, if only me and Skythe dislike him, then explain the 6 votes that want him kicked of the server. Obviously, these are from 6 different people, unless we both have created new accounts just for getting a new vote. Check the register logs to clear all doubts if you think we've done this. And think first before writing anything. Follow this advice and you won't look dumb.

P.S.: If after Dec 18 or 19 Pee hasn't been kicked then I'm oficially quitting from ACR. Not because of the problems I have with Pee, it's because our opinions aren't taken seriously or as the clan's opinion.

P.S.S.: Don't take this as a threat or anything like that. I'm looking for a democratic clan with a serious and responsible leader, who must be (obviously) democratic and conscious of what his/her clan thinks. That's all. If Bug can't be like this, then it's a shame for me. Nothing personal, though.

Litox wrote:

I'm not sure 'bout Linux, but at least 4 people think he's not ACR material.

After having seen my name in the discussion I simply had to jump in.

Well, I gotta say that {ACR}Pee, at times, does have a childish and what would be described by Litox as annoying behaviour. But he's never caused me any real trouble apart from being mildly annoying. So my stance on all this is pretty much neutral. As for the statements about him having said that he only joined ACR for the administrative power, well, that's up to BugHuman to look up in his server logs and do some fact-checking.

Litox wrote:

If after Dec 18 or 19 Pee hasn't been kicked then I'm oficially quitting from ACR. Not because of the problems I have with Pee, it's because our opinions aren't taken seriously or as the clan's opinion.

That line makes me lose faith in humanity. You really gotta be kidding me. Please, tell me it's a joke, we'll laugh at it together. Tell me you weren't actually serious when you posted that... if yes, please do re-read my post about the definitions of a "Server Administrator" and "Server Owner", and try to figure out the difference between the two on your own.

You're not in a democracy, Litox. Even in the real world, the (voting) public is influenced by wealthy and powerful groups who use different manipulation tools such as media (TV, books, magazines, even Internet!, etc.). If you claim to be mentally superior than the average person, you should know that. And you should also know that BugHuman is the clan and clan server owner. I joined this clan mostly because I like the server and the people within the clan, and I keep on staying in this clan because I trust BugHuman's judgement, and I believe that he'll take the right decision when the time will come. It's not democracy, Litox. HE never signed any contract obligating HIM to ask ME about MY opinion before taking a decision. I, and you for that matter, joined the clan of our own free will.


I'm very sorry if I ruined your delusions of a fully-democratic Internet-community utopia.


P.S. You know, it's actually quite ironic since I'm usually the one reclaiming my rights and fighting for freedom (such as for freedom of speech, of media usage http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ , of software http://www.fsf.org/ , the right to privacy and others).

idk what ill do if lito leaves..... ill be really disapointed
bug i think you need to make a decision now before this out of control.......

linux26 wrote:

Well, I gotta say that {ACR}Pee, at times, does have a childish and what would be described by Litox as annoying behaviour. But he's never caused me any real trouble apart from being mildly annoying. So my stance on all this is pretty much neutral. As for the statements about him having said that he only joined ACR for the administrative power, well, that's up to BugHuman to look up in his server logs and do some fact-checking.

Yeah, let's wait 'till Bug does that...

linux26 wrote:

That line makes me lose faith in humanity. You really gotta be kidding me. Please, tell me it's a joke, we'll laugh at it together. Tell me you weren't actually serious when you posted that... if yes, please do re-read my post about the definitions of a "Server Administrator" and "Server Owner", and try to figure out the difference between the two on your own.

Faith in humanity? LOL! Let's go outside one day, Eduard. I will show you how mean life and the world is. And how we have screwed it all so much you will feel stupid for believing such a thing. Just tell me when.

I know the difference between those titles. The only difference between me and the rest of you is that I don't think that just because Bug is the server owner he's entitled to do whatever he wants. There are basic rules of courtesy (it's not the exact word, I know, I'm too lazy right now to attempt to remember it), particularly towards the administrators, and that includes respecting their opinions and talking about them in order to, eventually, agreeing into something. I know Bug has done this so far, but they were only minor things (except for the A&V PermBan).

linux26 wrote:

You're not in a democracy, Litox. Even in the real world, the (voting) public is influenced by wealthy and powerful groups who use different manipulation tools such as media (TV, books, magazines, even Internet!, etc.). If you claim to be mentally superior than the average person, you should know that.

I know that, even though I don't consider myself brilliant or anything. I'm just pointing out a fact that, IMO, it's enough to kick someone of the clan. That's not manipulation in any way. I'm just leaving the option for the people who have read this to vote yes or no. No influence of banners and ads or nothing. Just a single truth supported by 4 guys and a log which will hopefully be checked by the server owner.

linux26 wrote:

And you should also know that BugHuman is the clan and clan server owner. I joined this clan mostly because I like the server and the people within the clan, and I keep on staying in this clan because I trust BugHuman's judgement, and I believe that he'll take the right decision when the time will come.

I know that too. You may know this from my previous posts and discussions with Bug a few months ago: first, I didn't want Huck to be banned, even though Bug told me he had to for the server's good. I eventually realized that he was right and completely agreed with him. I also hope he does the right thing this time. If he does, I'll respect him from now on (it's not that I don't; I just don't take him as seriously as I'm meant to).

linux26 wrote:

It's not democracy, Litox. HE never signed any contract obligating HIM to ask ME about MY opinion before taking a decision. I, and you for that matter, joined the clan of our own free will.

Go look for your dictionary and search for the word "ethics".

linux26 wrote:

I'm very sorry if I ruined your delusions of a fully-democratic Internet-community utopia.

Nah, I just wanted a democratic ACR. Not the whole Internet. IDC about the rest.

linux26 wrote:

P.S. You know, it's actually quite ironic since I'm usually the one reclaiming my rights and fighting for freedom (such as for freedom of speech, of media usage http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ , of software http://www.fsf.org/ , the right to privacy and others).

I was about to say that. LOL.

P.S.: Oh, and in case you're wondering why I in that way about server owners is because of Drebin. He had a very good and valid point there (if you're reading this, Dreb, thanks).

LOL Kilo, everything's alright. I will still hang around in ACR 'til the BoG one is up.

The clan will be exactly the same. Well, probably a lil' more abuse but I trust you guys will do the right thing and put everything in order.

Take me with you!!! =[ *Tears* [not really but point sent out]

lito ffs why u quit why u just dont multiclan ftw?
if u quit the server wil be assing around until u comes back cause ur liek almost only one of teh big admins who doesntn actually abuse (ok noone them abuses but still -_-)

DONT PLLEASE LEAVELOL

I'm also part of BoG (old member) and I'm trying to get into C-F.

P.S.: Oh, the reason I said "by 18 or 19" is because we only had one week to vote.

However, most of the active users have already voted, so...

Heh lito BoG is a downgrade from acr.... In all honestly I think ACR is a nooby clan. I was in it for a while as some of you remember. But come on, BoG. Thats worse then joining SoH or MW for real.... If your gonna leave at least UPGRADE your status... i mean come on.

I know that, but I don't join a clan because of its members skill but for how they are. I like ACR people; they're very friendly, and so is BoG.

i wrote a really long response, but i accidentally clicked "back" (****ING SHIT). so, heres what i said, summed up.

- until those people you (referring to litox) said dont like peebrain actually state that, i am correct in saying only you and skythe dislike him
- we all deal with clashes of attitudes (for as you said, "the only problem I have with him is his attitude"). thats life. ignore him, agree to disagree, or suck it up.
- any votes to kick peebrain without stated reasoning are like pressing F1 just for the hell of it.
- i am not trying to make you happy so i really dont care if you think i "look dumb" or believe that i dont think before writing.
- to go with the third bullet point, i vote no because attitude problems can be fixed and/or ignored, plus peebrain has not abused, or proof of his abuse has not been shown.

basically, i agree to disagree

Its not there skill level I am refering to, it is simply how they are looked at through the public eye. BoG accepts anyone that wants to join, they dont have a server. And are probably the most looked down on clan in trem because half of there members are plain immature

I have an interesting proposal I will post it later should solve things

Ok first of all I don't mind pee so don't say that I do. Further more I try not to go into the clan's personal issues mainly because if I do someone will end up mad at me. Lito? please do not leave, because on my behalf I have taken things you have said into perspective countless times, also Lito? please don't encourage people like Kilo to leave on your behalf, that would hurt the clan and I'm sure you would not want to do that. Lastly nothing is democratic in the real world, I can't think of one thing. And don't go saying America is, because it isn't. America is defined as a Republic. If you want democracy in a clan with about 60 members that kinda hard because I can't just take your opinions into account I have to take everyone's. I hope that you understand that a clan leader cannot fix problems that are personally related between two members. I do not know what you want me to do. Im not magic, I can't make people change. Though I wish I could...

look for my new topic in the news section

hey bug i was just kidding lol i wouldent leave ACR i mite multi clan up with lito but thats about it